The Cloud-Ready Data Center
Whether you work in the data center or just work alongside other teams that do, it’s time to challenge the status quo. Demand more from your data center with Juniper Networks. Hear from Juniper’s GVP of Cloud-Ready Data Center, Mike Bushong, at AI in Action 2023.
2:05 Juniper’s Data Center Business Growth
3:25 Cisco’s Customers Struggle with Complexity
5:20 Changes in the Network Engineering Workforce
7:40 The Network Automation Journey
9:02 The Experience-First Data Center
15:16 The Proven Business Case of Juniper Apstra
17:45 Intent-Based Networking & AI
18:58 Demanding More from Your Network
You’ll learn
What to expect from the transformation in the industry
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Introduction
0:00 [Music]
0:10 thank you
0:13 so following Sadir is always an
0:15 experience I feel a little bit uh
0:18 marketing kind of didn't set me up right
0:20 they said business casual Studio doesn't
0:22 even have shoes on
0:24 um so we'll just
0:25 kick the shoes off does that give you
0:28 more technical street cred with this
0:29 audience I got to go sockless I will
0:31 it's a little gross
0:33 um my name is Mike bushong I I run the
0:36 data center business here at Juniper
0:37 Networks we talk a lot about AI in
0:39 action we've talked a lot about the
0:41 campus we've talked a lot about the
0:43 branch we just got into the wired side
0:45 it's not AI in campus it's AI in action
0:48 we've got to carry that over to the data
0:49 center I want to talk a bit about how we
0:52 do that
0:54 so
0:55 it's language we've always done it that
0:57 way is it's some of the most pernicious
0:59 language in it organizations anywhere on
1:02 the planet right every time you want to
1:04 go and make some change right we know
1:05 that technology is not stagnant it
1:07 doesn't move at the pace of whoever the
1:09 incumbent is things come along now and
1:11 again a little bit like X-Men style a
1:13 mutation comes in and then leaps us
1:15 forward a couple of years
1:16 when that happens collectively and as
1:19 individuals we have to have the courage
1:21 to do something different now many of
1:23 you are using myths today
1:24 and in that missed decision you took a
1:27 risk you said I'm going to try something
1:29 that's new and that's not just company
1:31 risk that's personal reputational risk
1:34 now there's a saying in our industry
1:36 right no one gets fired for buying IBM
1:39 in the networking space it gets a little
1:40 bit grosser no one gets fired for buying
1:42 Cisco but I'll tell you what you don't
1:44 get promoted for buying Cisco either
1:46 we've got to have the ability to go and
1:49 make change what I want to do is argue
1:51 the case for why what we're doing in the
1:53 campus side and how we're transforming
1:55 with AI
1:56 is going to carry its way into the data
1:58 center so if you like what you see on
2:00 the campus then you have to have a
2:02 conversation with juniper about data
2:03 center
Juniper’s Data Center Business Growth
2:05 now we have a data center portfolio that
2:07 Services the service provider space
2:09 we've got customers in the cloud space
2:11 we've got the Enterprise covered and
2:13 these you know we feature the largest
2:16 companies across the globe in all each
2:18 of these markets
2:20 now that portfolio it's based on
2:22 primarily broadcom silicon the takeaway
2:25 here is if you're familiar with like
2:27 switches and common form factors just
2:29 presume that we have a familiar form
2:31 factor that does what you need
2:34 but of course data centers aren't made
2:35 with switches they're made with Fabrics
2:37 they include things like management and
2:39 operations and so from that Foundation
2:41 we've built software on top that allows
2:44 us to change the way operations happens
2:46 in Data Center
2:49 we acquired a company a couple years ago
2:51 called appstra and in the same way that
2:53 mist has transformed the wireless space
2:55 and what we're doing in the campus side
2:57 abstra has transformed what we're doing
2:59 on the data center side you see the
3:01 numbers here we've doubled our data
3:03 center business in the last two years
3:04 now if you're sitting there who cares
3:06 about whether we've doubled the business
3:07 that's a great Juniper thing what it
3:09 signals is that something is going on
3:12 there is a change that is afoot and that
3:15 change means that there is a better way
3:17 of doing things and people are betting
3:19 with their wallets to take advantage of
3:20 it
3:22 now there's another event that's going
3:23 on right now right there's like a Cisco
Cisco’s Customers Struggle with Complexity
3:25 live or something everyone's afraid to
3:26 say the Cisco word for some reason I
3:28 didn't get the memo Cisco there was
3:30 column so Cisco's market share this is
3:33 what negative seven percent keger looks
3:35 like
3:35 don't mention this because I want to
3:37 take take shots at Cisco's market share
3:39 the point is that it isn't the market
3:41 Rose and so Juniper doubled our business
3:43 because you know a rising tide floats
3:45 all boats now there's a sinking ship
3:48 and as they go down what this means is
3:50 that people are transitioning from
3:52 incumbent ways of doing things and the
3:54 reason they're doing that isn't to eke
3:56 out incremental advantages in pricing
3:59 but we've talked about all day today
4:02 this is about fundamentally changing
4:04 what the point of interaction is and
4:06 what's your what you're capable of from
4:08 an operations perspective
4:10 and that same transformation it's
4:11 happening on the data center side
4:13 and frankly Cisco's loss is our gain
4:16 so why is that happening
4:19 look I'll be honest all right Cisco's
4:21 gone through some execution challenges I
4:23 don't think we have to pick on that in
4:25 2013 they talked about ACI ACI was
4:28 actually and I'll be honest I was like
4:30 at an sdn company I was there because I
4:32 was going to make sdn millions I drive a
4:34 Hyundai it didn't work out
4:36 um
4:37 yeah it's too soon it still hurts my
4:39 wife is pissed
4:41 um
4:42 moment of silence hold on
4:47 stings
4:48 um
4:49 when I saw ACI the idea that you could
4:52 converge operations around applications
4:53 in data center that's actually a
4:55 profound thing to go do they were trying
4:57 to make a difference in the operations
4:58 side the challenge
5:00 was that the solution fell over under
5:02 the complexity that they were
5:03 introducing to make it work
5:05 a bunch of people went out and bought a
5:07 bunch of Nexus switches tried to deploy
5:09 ACI and they said it doesn't quite work
5:10 that way
5:12 here's a Professional Services contract
5:15 see how that works
5:16 no it's not free we'll charge you for
5:18 that every year
5:19 and so the the as that fell over then
Changes in the Network Engineering Workforce
5:22 certainly Cisco was going to have
5:24 challenges but if we think that the
5:26 transformation that is going on in the
5:27 industry is limited to execution
5:29 challenges I don't think we're doing the
5:30 industry Justice
5:32 and frankly since I have a bunch of
5:33 friends at Cisco so I make fun of a
5:35 little bit but it's a bunch of smart
5:36 people that work there they're not dumb
5:38 it's not purely an execution challenge
5:40 the bigger issue the Strategic issue
5:42 that is at its core is a change in the
5:44 workforce altogether
5:46 now take Network Engineers right I'm not
5:49 a network engineer but I used to be a
5:50 trainer so I guess I'm kind of close
5:52 Network Engineers sort of entered the
5:54 market in what like mid 90s early 2000s
5:56 as the internet stuff was going on
5:58 if we're being honest Network Engineers
6:01 we're kind of Aging out a little bit
6:03 right not not me but like you all
6:07 none of you none of you right people
6:09 over at Cisco alive are aging out
6:13 um but as they age out right and then
6:15 there's like the great resignation or
6:16 the great reshuffling call it whatever
6:18 you want right there's a change in
6:19 Workforce the rise of remote work means
6:21 that people can work for Amazon without
6:23 living in Seattle so that changes stuff
6:25 up some people are just making work-life
6:27 balance because of the or decisions
6:28 because of the pandemic whatever the
6:30 reason there's a wholesale change in the
6:33 network engineering Workforce now this
6:35 is terrifying because the bumper crop of
6:37 network engineers
6:39 it's not the same group that came up
6:41 before they didn't major in networking
6:42 and do four years at some major
6:44 university they're not trained on Cisco
6:46 press and and they don't have like rote
6:48 memorization of you know vendor-specific
6:50 syntax that you can use and some
6:52 certification that says I memorized the
6:54 commands they don't have all of that
6:57 the next crop of network Engineers
6:59 they're learning on AWS and Azure and
7:02 gcp which means the point of interaction
7:05 the point of familiarity isn't the CLI
7:10 it's now going to be the way we consume
7:11 Cloud it's probably closer to terraform
7:13 than it is to Cisco CLI
7:15 and what that does is that means that as
7:17 you try to fill your Workforce
7:20 with people who don't have as much
7:22 experience and haven't gone through the
7:24 memorization process then your mops and
7:27 stops don't work
7:29 and when that happens
7:32 you either break everything or you
7:34 introduce a new way of operating the
7:36 reason we've been winning
7:38 is because we introduced a new way of
7:39 operating
The Network Automation Journey
7:41 now Network automation has been a thing
7:43 for I've been in the network automation
7:45 space for like 15 years is that right oh
7:47 my God it's 15 years in network
7:48 Automation and if you look at the
7:50 millions of people hours that we've
7:52 poured into Network automation
7:54 like we are literally nowhere it's
7:56 embarrassing
7:58 and we have to rationalize with all that
8:00 effort why is it that things are not
8:02 more automated
8:04 it's not because people are too dumb
8:06 it's because Network automation is too
8:08 hard so devops bore out if you're
8:10 particularly cynical right to make error
8:12 as human to propagate error to all
8:14 server and automatic ways devops
8:16 now if you don't believe that ask the
8:17 folks at Facebook and and tell them to
8:20 to recount the story when they had to
8:22 saw into their data center cages so they
8:24 could get access because their badges
8:25 didn't work
8:27 that's automation
8:29 right now the reason that stuff like
8:32 that happens and I love this other one
8:33 right we do this not because it is easy
8:36 but because we thought it would be easy
8:37 right automation doesn't make good
8:40 automation makes more if you've got good
8:42 it makes more good but if you have bad
8:46 it makes more bad and that's the way to
8:48 break things at scale well we have to
8:50 solve around operations and automation
8:52 we got to look at this differently right
8:54 the old approach isn't working
8:57 so what do we do
8:58 I'm putting up really pretty slides
9:00 right um okay so we acquired a company
The Experience-First Data Center
9:03 called abstra abstra is like the literal
9:05 inventors of intent-based networking
9:08 right and with Appster we say let's go
9:11 after day zero day one and day two but
9:13 what if we presume rather than thinking
9:16 that people are too slow
9:18 we think that networking is too hard
9:21 now to be clear networking should be
9:22 kind of hard right we do complex things
9:24 but it should be really hard to make
9:26 mistakes and if you start with a lens of
9:29 reliability
9:31 then having a different why not just
9:33 speed but reliability that drives a
9:36 different what
9:37 so I meet with customers all the time
9:39 and I talk about Network Automation and
9:40 their operational journey and big words
9:42 like transformation and I was meeting
9:44 with a large retailer in Europe they've
9:46 got a large e-commerce site I mean this
9:47 is like one of the the biggest
9:49 e-commerce sites in Europe and I asked
9:51 them I said how long does it take you to
9:52 turn up a new server I want you all to
9:54 think in your head how long that should
9:55 take
9:56 because I was probably thinking the same
9:58 thing you are a couple hours maybe a
10:00 couple minutes if they're really
10:01 operated if they're really automated you
10:03 know maybe a couple of days if they're
10:04 kind of slow yeah six to eight weeks
10:08 like what
10:09 how can that be and they're like well
10:11 because we have these blackout Windows
10:14 right so we want to make a change what
10:16 we do is we schedule the change it has
10:18 to queue up until there's a review
10:19 meeting they have a review meeting
10:20 there's always a take two on the review
10:21 meeting they go to the take two of the
10:23 review meeting they get to the scheduled
10:24 maintenance window the scheduled
10:26 maintenance window only succeeds about
10:27 50 of the time they go to the second
10:29 maintenance window and then they get
10:30 their servers up
10:32 now this is interesting because it means
10:34 the problem the speed problem is not how
10:36 long it takes to configure stuff I'm
10:38 going to give you some useful advice you
10:39 guys can write this down
10:41 if your biggest problem is how long it
10:43 takes people to key in stuff or if
10:44 that's if you're really trying to make
10:45 it faster and it's in keystrokes are the
10:47 biggest problem that you have and you're
10:49 worried about people fat fingering you
10:51 know in your in your networks and write
10:53 this down the best return on investments
10:56 you will get is send your team to a
10:58 typing class
10:59 like they will they will type faster and
11:01 they will make fewer mistakes and you'll
11:03 be good
11:04 if however the biggest problem you have
11:06 isn't the typing but the elapsed time
11:08 right it's the coordination between
11:09 organizations it's the coordination
11:11 between tools if that's the actual
11:13 problem
11:15 then there's other ways to do it if I
11:17 could guarantee that a change that you
11:19 were going to make in your data center
11:20 today if I could guarantee
11:21 mathematically
11:23 that it was going to work that it was
11:25 known good
11:27 the thing I would save is not the typing
11:29 time we can automate that too by the way
11:31 the thing I would save is all the review
11:34 time it takes to get that change to the
11:35 system
11:37 that's where the difference is going to
11:39 be made
11:41 automation is nowhere not because people
11:43 aren't capable it's because we've been
11:44 trying to solve the wrong damn problem
11:48 if you want to drive super fast on the
11:49 freeway go for it right the reason you
11:51 don't is because you're going to get
11:52 into accidents you want to automate
11:54 today you know code some stuff up the
11:56 reason you don't do it is because you're
11:57 going to get into accidents take that
11:59 problem away and you unlock speed
12:02 and when you do
12:04 you get real value that comes back in
12:07 return
12:08 now we do all of this through intent
12:10 based networking if you're not like an
12:11 intent based networking person let me
12:13 describe it fairly simply intent based
12:15 networking says I want the language of
12:17 networking to be what you want not how
12:20 to get it now think about how you get a
12:22 network today right you take hundreds or
12:24 thousands of distributed devices you set
12:26 hundreds or thousands of knobs on them
12:28 and when you get it just right you
12:30 slowly back away and you don't touch
12:32 anything
12:33 I started my career I did research for
12:36 Boeing I worked on jet engine design it
12:38 sounds really cool it's kind of boring
12:40 um
12:41 and I always joke I'm like if we built
12:42 airplanes or we build Networks
12:44 I would walk everywhere and I would
12:48 constantly be looking up for falling
12:51 airplanes right we need to change that
12:53 and that means flipping what we do now
12:55 when you do that when you work at the
12:57 level of what do you want not what not
12:59 how do the devices work then the tool
13:01 translates what you want into device
13:03 syntax into device config when we do
13:06 that by very nature the product is
13:08 multi-vendor we are the only
13:09 multi-vendor game in town
13:11 our lead customers are using us over the
13:13 top of ACI and over the top of Arista
13:16 and over the top of Dell and yes over
13:18 the top of juniper but by being
13:20 multi-vendor we give them a different
13:21 level of control
13:24 and then if you build a network and
13:25 you're not thinking about security I
13:27 don't know what you're doing we'll talk
13:29 a bit about security here in in on the
13:31 next session but in the security space
13:33 if we know what this what the network
13:35 looks like then what we can do is start
13:38 highlighting things like overlapping
13:40 security policies so you can flag if
13:42 there's going to be issues or likely
13:44 issues
13:45 and it's not enough to do this at Day
13:47 Zero what happens on day two
13:50 so we take that and then we make a model
13:52 of it we look at all the network State
13:54 and we say this is what a known good
13:56 Network looks like and when we push it
13:58 to production
14:00 then what we do is we say here's what's
14:02 actually in production and if those two
14:03 things are the same
14:05 we give you a big green thumbs up and if
14:07 they're different
14:09 we tell you what's wrong
14:11 what's the number one cause of downtime
14:12 right it's like fiber seeking backhoes
14:15 DNS probably the top two once you get
14:18 into the networking side it's human
14:19 error
14:20 what I want to do is provide an
14:22 environment where we drive human error
14:25 to zero
14:27 when we do this we see return you see
14:30 the numbers in terms of payback and Roi
14:33 it's not just about what do you get out
14:34 of the tool it's about what do you what
14:36 is required to make the network work day
14:39 after day after day and when you do this
14:41 you can start rationalizing tools and
14:43 getting rid of that
14:44 that allows you to streamline things it
14:46 lets you put people on a smaller number
14:48 of tools regardless of what their
14:50 experience is
14:51 if I'm not waiting for a ccie or some
14:54 certification to prove that somebody has
14:57 demonstrated they can do something then
15:00 I can start to hire and change my
15:01 Workforce up it means I can start moving
15:04 workloads around a bit so that different
15:05 people can do different things
15:07 and if I can do that over a multi-vendor
15:09 environment
15:10 then it means you can allow the physics
15:12 or the economics or maybe the features
15:14 to dictate your next purchase
The Proven Business Case of Juniper Apstra
15:18 and our customers they make those next
15:20 purchases I'll start I'm not going to go
15:23 through all these you can read them or
15:24 is the font big enough you can look at
15:25 it and see big white blocks if you're in
15:27 the back T Systems was our lead customer
15:29 right large data center provider in
15:31 Germany they actually came to us before
15:33 the acquisition they said you need to
15:34 acquire this company we're using it to
15:37 cap ACI we would like to build Juniper
15:39 but you have to have a management story
15:40 if you can unify that then you give us a
15:43 credible strategy to move from where we
15:45 are to where we want to be I said sold
15:47 let's go do that we did that and then
15:50 they and they were able to cap and grow
15:51 it gave them flexibility in their vendor
15:54 choice where their operations previously
15:55 didn't allow it
15:57 um the one in the the upper right that's
15:59 a rifison they're like a large a large
16:02 Bank
16:03 and Ernest at rifles and these guys he's
16:05 a great engineer listening to him he
16:07 gets so he gets super geeked out about
16:09 the technology and he will go for like
16:11 days on the technology bit but the party
16:13 was actually most excited about his
16:15 procurement team who he usually has to
16:17 fight with to get things through his
16:19 procurement team became fans of the
16:21 technology because it meant they could
16:23 put every RFP out to bid sincerely
16:27 and they got uh then they could put
16:29 things like lead times anyone dealing
16:31 with supply chain no one right that's
16:32 all solved
16:34 um they could deal with like lead times
16:35 they could put in uh pricing and then
16:37 they could force everyone to to bid
16:40 the part that's cool they're not on this
16:42 screen we have a Canadian uh service
16:44 provider that uses App Store over the
16:46 top they had an environment where we
16:48 couldn't meet their requirements on lead
16:50 times
16:51 and so they swapped to Dell I have a
16:53 happy Customer because they were able to
16:56 make a vendor Choice and then after that
16:58 then they're they're putting Juniper
17:00 back in and subsequent builds it gives
17:02 you freedom and flexibility
17:05 uh Tigo they have uh data centers in
17:09 like Columbia and Guatemala Belize
17:11 Honduras Panama they had issues because
17:15 they had an uneven Workforce people that
17:16 acted semi-autonomously but they needed
17:19 to deploy the same data centers
17:20 everywhere that showed up as like
17:22 quality problems for them because their
17:24 procedures and their architectures are
17:25 always like similar but kind of
17:27 different we rolled abstra in there
17:30 it solidified the workforce they're now
17:32 stamping that out in every location and
17:35 all the issues they had those issues are
17:37 gone because when you standardize the
17:39 architecture and you streamline the
17:40 testing what you get is better results
Intent-Based Networking & AI
17:45 now I got all the way through this and I
17:46 didn't even mention AI like so we'd have
17:49 to be idiots to look at all the stuff
17:52 that you see in Marvis and Ai and say
17:54 you know let's let's keep it in campus
17:56 of course we want to bring these things
17:58 together in a data center there's some
18:00 things that are deterministic they're
18:02 going to be you want them to be the same
18:03 way every time for that we use abstra
18:06 there's some things that are stochastic
18:08 probabilistic we things like
18:09 troubleshooting when we talk about you
18:11 know bringing the the tickets down to
18:13 zero and helping identify where the root
18:15 cause is figuring out where you know the
18:17 point of dmarc is the problem is going
18:19 to be somewhere between the access port
18:21 and and then DCI or it's over the WAN
18:23 link or whatever
18:24 bringing AI to bear on that problem
18:27 it supercharges differentiation that we
18:30 already have
18:31 the reason we're at AI in action is that
18:34 if we can take these things and bring
18:36 them together into a common uh into a
18:38 common platform
18:41 then the things that you're seeing on
18:42 the missed side
18:44 you start seeing those on the data
18:47 center side
18:48 we've been working at this for quarters
18:50 now and that bringing these things
18:53 together is the key to transforming
18:55 operations going forward
Demanding More from Your Network
18:58 and so I want to leave you with this
19:00 right when we talk about you know things
19:02 like TCO or we talk about things like
19:05 agility it's not only some advantage
19:08 that a cruise at the business level
19:11 right agility is and I have 11 year old
19:13 twin boys right for me doing things
19:16 simpler knowing that it's going to work
19:18 that means that
19:20 I can go to a soccer tournament on a
19:22 weekend because I'm not worried about
19:23 you know staying after if my production
19:25 change doesn't doesn't go the way it's
19:27 supposed to go it means I can spend an
19:29 extra dinner with my family where I
19:30 otherwise might have had to work
19:32 the differences that we make they're
19:33 more than just technical they're more
19:35 than just the percentages these are
19:36 personal differences
19:38 now I'm telling you that that's on the
19:39 horizon and whether you're in data
19:41 center or you merely work alongside
19:42 other teams that are in data center it's
19:44 incumbent upon you today to challenge
19:46 the status quo demand more from your
19:49 data center demand that when you go to
19:51 RFP
19:53 that anybody could legitimately bid for
19:55 it
19:56 I dare you to put out an RFP that any
20:00 supplier can bid and not be worried
20:01 about the operational implications
20:03 I dare you to hire a new college grad
20:06 because you shouldn't have to have a
20:07 damn certification in 25 years of
20:09 experience to provision a pod that's
20:11 already been deployed hundreds of times
20:13 in your environment
20:15 or better yet I dare you to push to
20:18 production on a Friday
20:19 I'm Mike Bouchon where's Juniper Data
20:22 Center and this is what AI in action
20:23 looks like in Data Center
20:31 now networking may start with switches
20:33 but it certainly includes security I
20:37 give you Kate Adams
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